Recovery Lab

Today on Recovery Lab, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Trey White, a Vicksburg, Mississippi native and author of Meth 2 Marathons.
Trey went from scholarships and a promising future to spending 20 years in and out of prison, with ten felony convictions and 23 trips to rehab. He shares the cost of those years, the people who never stopped loving him, and what it means to move beyond promising change and start following through.
Today, Trey is a husband, father, and Peer Support Supervisor at Mississippi State Hospital. An Alcorn State graduate pursuing his master’s in social work at Jackson State, he also trains peer support specialists, serves on the DMH Planning and Advisory Committee, and works as a Forensic Peer Trainer. He was named NAMI’s 2026 Peer Leader of the Year.
At the heart of his story are faith, family, accountability, and gratitude for another chance. Trey shares his journey for anyone who thinks they have messed up too many times for life to get better.
Produced by Daniel Anderson, Audio Alchemy Productions.

On this episode of Recovery Lab, Daniel Anderson, Brynn Knox, and David Sugg welcome Gregory Greer back to the studio for his second visit. We’re especially grateful to Gregory for making the drive from Louisiana to spend the day with us.
Gregory is the Director of Clinical Services at Red Hill Recovery and brings decades of experience in addiction recovery, group psychotherapy, spirituality, and personal transformation. He is a Licensed Master Social Worker, Licensed Addictions Counselor, Certified Group Psychotherapist, and Certified Trainer in Souldrama.
Today, we explore the connection between recovery, spirituality, relationships, and emotional healing. We discuss breaking free from codependent patterns, letting go of attachments that no longer serve us, and discovering a deeper sense of purpose through self-awareness and personal growth.
Gregory also shares information about two upcoming experiences designed to help individuals explore healing and transformation.
Souldrama: The Soul’s Journey
📍 Sedona, Arizona 📅 November 10–14, 2026
Facilitated by Gregory Greer, this immersive experience combines psychodrama, spirituality, and experiential growth. Participants will explore the roles and relationship patterns that no longer serve them, work toward releasing codependent attachments, and reconnect with their higher selves. The experience also includes mindfulness activities and light hiking.
Continuing education units (CEUs) are available for counselors and therapists.
For more information: www.voicesofrecovery.org gregorygreer@voicesofrecovery.org (318) 366-2553
The Breath of Soul: A Five-Day Immersive Healing Journey
📍 Stuart, Florida 📅 January 7–11, 2027
For the first time, Souldrama founder Connie Miller and Activation Breathwork founder Ocean Eagle come together for a five-day immersive experience focused on emotional release, spiritual exploration, and personal transformation.
With co-facilitators Susan Shirley and Gregory Greer, this event combines Souldrama, Activation Breathwork, and sound vibrational healing.
For more information: Susan Shirley Shirley.susana2022@gmail.com (337) 356-5486
Whether you’re navigating recovery, working through difficult relationships, or simply looking for a deeper understanding of yourself, this conversation offers plenty to reflect on.
Recovery is about more than putting down a substance. It’s about discovering who we are, understanding what holds us back, and learning how to live differently.
 
Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions. 

Tonight on Recovery Lab, Daniel Anderson, David Sugg, and Brynn Knox welcome a familiar voice in Mississippi broadcasting, the one and only “Radio Bob” Sullender!
With decades of experience in radio, including more than 10 years as General Manager of SuperTalk Mississippi’s WFMN 97.3, Radio Bob has spent much of his life behind the microphone. But beyond his successful broadcasting career is another powerful story, one of addiction, recovery, perseverance, and long-term sobriety.
In this episode, we sit down with Radio Bob to discuss his journey through the broadcasting industry, his personal experience with addiction, and what it takes to build and maintain a life in recovery. We’ll explore the lessons he’s learned along the way, the challenges of staying sober, and how recovery can transform every aspect of your life.
From the radio studio to the rooms of recovery, Bob’s story is a reminder that no matter where life takes us, there’s always hope, purpose, and a reason to keep moving forward.
Recovery is possible. Recovery is worth it. And every story matters.
Join us for Episode 151 of Recovery Lab!
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Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

Today on Recovery Lab, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Mary Jane Williams to Audio Alchemy Studios for a conversation about recovery, resilience, and the life that can be found on the other side of addiction.
Mary Jane shares her experience, strength, and hope, reflecting on where her journey began, the challenges she faced along the way, and what recovery looks like in her life today.
It’s an honest conversation about struggle, growth, connection, and the power of sharing our stories so that others know they don’t have to walk the road alone.
 
Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

In Episode 149 of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, Daniel Anderson, and David Sugg sit down with Ron Permenter for a wide-ranging conversation about recovery, life, and the road that brought him to where he is today.
Ron opens up about his journey through addiction and recovery, the experiences that shaped him, the turning points that changed his direction, and what life looks like on the other side.
But this isn’t just a recovery story. The crew gets into Ron’s life today, his work in nursing and healthcare education, lessons learned along the way, and plenty of unexpected, funny, and interesting detours.
Recovery is about more than what you leave behind. It’s about the life you build afterward.
 
Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

In Episode 148 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David, Brynn, and Daniel welcome Ruth Ann Rigby back to the Audio Alchemy Studios to talk about her new consulting endeavor, Rigby Consulting, LLC, and the next chapter of her work in behavioral health, crisis navigation, recovery, and community education. Ruth Ann brings nearly 30 years of experience in addiction treatment and behavioral health to this new venture.
The conversation also turns to the recent deaths of two University of Mississippi students in Oxford and the broader question of what can be done to prevent overdoses on college campuses and across the country.
Ruth Ann also shares insight from her new article, “Gas Station Heroin, Huffing, and the Drugs Hiding in Plain Sight,” which focuses on substances families may not recognize, including kratom and concentrated 7-OH products, nitrous oxide and inhalants, tianeptine, counterfeit pills, and the emerging synthetic opioid cychlorphine.
The group discusses warning signs, Narcan access, education, harm reduction, early intervention, and why families should act when something feels wrong rather than waiting for a crisis. Ruth Ann’s message is simple: awareness and early action can save lives. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RGOOBY9vGsgXNqrO9HiMq3MAUIl9RYnayZdxPvHt4Bg/edit?usp=sharing
It’s a conversation about leadership, prevention, recovery, and finding new ways to help families before tragedy happens.
 
Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

The Yana Club has been the heart of recovery in Jackson, Mississippi for nearly 50 years, providing thousands of alcoholics and addicts with a safe place to attend meetings, find sponsors, build friendships, and begin a new way of life.
In Episode 147 of The Recovery Lab Podcast, Daniel Anderson and David Sugg welcome Emma Johnson, Walter Boon, and Vernon Jones for an important conversation about the past, present, and future of the Yana Club.
The guests discuss the devastating fire that damaged the clubhouse earlier this year, the unexpected challenges that followed, including asbestos remediation, structural repairs, roofing, flooring, accessibility improvements, and other expenses not covered by insurance. They also explain why preserving Yana is about much more than restoring a building. It’s about protecting one of the most important recovery resources in Central Mississippi.
You’ll hear how the newly formed Yana Finance Committee is working alongside the Board of Directors to create long-term financial stability through a monthly membership program, community partnerships, fundraising efforts, and a vision that will allow the clubhouse to serve future generations.
The conversation also explores why service work is essential to long-term recovery, the importance of helping newcomers, the unique role clubhouses play within the recovery community, and how every person who has ever benefited from Yana has an opportunity to help ensure its doors remain open.
Whether Yana played a role in your recovery or you simply believe everyone deserves a safe place to find hope, this episode is a reminder that recovery is strongest when a community comes together to give back.
To learn more about the Yana Club, become a monthly member, or support their mission, visit www.yanaclubms.com⁠.
Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions. 

On this powerful episode of Recovery Lab, Brynn, Daniel, and David sit down with Cordie Rodenbaugh and Renee Clements, two mothers carrying unimaginable grief and turning it into action.
 
Cordie shares the story of her son, Parker, whose death led to the creation of Parker’s Law, legislation designed to hold drug dealers accountable when their actions lead to death. Renee shares the heartbreaking story of her son, Mason, who died at just 18 years old after fentanyl changed the course of his life and devastated everyone who loved him.
 
Together, they discuss grief, stigma, fentanyl poisoning, Narcan, justice, motherhood, and the upcoming Walk for Lives event in Madison, Mississippi. This community event honors lives lost, educates families, provides free Narcan, connects people with recovery resources, and reminds us that this crisis can impact any family.
 
Join the Walk for Lives on Saturday, July 11, from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at 100 Liberty Park Drive in Madison, Mississippi. Bring your family, hear powerful stories, connect with local resources, and help raise awareness about the dangers of fentanyl and synthetic drugs.
 
This episode is heavy, honest, and deeply important. It is a call to show up, say their names, support grieving families, and help save lives.
 
No shame. No judgment. Just truth, grace, and hope.
 
Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

In Episode #143 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson welcome Stephanie Hathorne, a therapist with The Shepherd’s Staff and founder of Broken Branch Equine Assisted Psychotherapy in Mount Olive, Mississippi.
Stephanie shares her personal journey through anxiety, panic, depression, therapy, faith, and healing, and how those experiences eventually led her into the counseling field. She also opens up about the impact of Ruth Glaze, the sacred work being done at The Shepherd’s Staff, and the importance of therapists doing their own healing work.
The conversation then moves into the world of equine assisted psychotherapy, where horses become powerful mirrors for honesty, boundaries, trust, regulation, and emotional awareness. Stephanie explains why horses are uniquely able to sense misalignment, respond to anxiety, reveal hidden patterns, and help clients work through trauma, addiction recovery, neurodiversity, family dynamics, and emotional blocks in a way traditional talk therapy sometimes cannot reach.
This episode explores therapy, recovery, nature, faith, vulnerability, and the healing power of being fully present.
Topics include:
Equine assisted psychotherapy • Addiction recovery and emotional healing • Anxiety, panic, and depression • The role of horses in trauma work • Boundaries, trust, and self-awareness • Neurodiversity, ADHD, autism, and family support • The importance of nature, grounding, and regulation • Why healing sometimes happens without words
Sometimes the truth we need most is revealed in silence.

On episode 142 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Darryl Brown into the Audio Alchemy Studios from Dallas, Texas for an honest and deeply inspiring conversation about addiction, recovery, leadership, and transformation.
Darryl Brown is a strategic advisor, activist, speaker, consultant, and former Executive Vice-President of ABC Radio Networks who has spent decades helping organizations, universities, and communities create meaningful change through compassion, equity, and leadership. He currently serves on the Board of Trustees at Fordham University, is a leader within the First Unitarian Church of Dallas, cohosts the Compassionate Leaders Circle podcast.
But today’s conversation goes far beyond titles and accomplishments.
Darryl opens up about what life used to look like before sobriety, the struggles and turning points that changed everything, and what life looks like today living in recovery. He shares powerful insight into identity, healing, leadership, accountability, and the importance of connection and purpose.
The conversation also explores: • Addiction and recovery in high performance environments • Leadership through compassion and service • The connection between athletics, discipline, and recovery • Race, equity, and creating opportunities for others • Spiritual growth and personal transformation • What true success really looks like after recovery
This is a raw, thoughtful, and hope-filled episode from a man who has experienced both professional success and personal redemption, and who now dedicates his life to helping others grow, heal, and lead with purpose.
 
Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.